Go the Greens.....and the tentative, aspirational aussies...as long as its non-binding
September 11th 2007 22:12
Seems like a while since the Greenies have had, well anything to say on climate change but maybe that is because I have sworn myself off Politics so I have ignored all rhetoric.....now both the Canadian Greens and the Australian Greens are speaking out against APEC stating the efforts of the APEC leaders in discussing Climate Change at last weekends conference have undermined the United Nations Conference in November. Why you may ask? Well it seems because they can......
It is pretty much a given that APEC climate change talks were a political stunt engineered to generate headlines for our Government who has its back to the wall on this issue coming into an election where apparently 86% of us care about Climate Change. This article below shows the Greenies feel that even discussing this issue undermines the UN role on this issue.
Howard is claiming a victory because he got China and India to tentatively agree to aspire to reduce emissions something they have been opposed to in the past and is the major sticking point with the US not signing Kyoto......I tentatively and non-bindingly aspire to agree with him; this is a tentative, non-binding aspirational victory for the tentative non-binding aspirational Aussies...Go johnny ......aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi........hmmmmmmmm is there Rugby on at the moment
Here is the story, worth a look
Aussie, Canadian Green parties criticize APEC outcome
1 hour ago
OTTAWA (CP) — Prime Minister Stephen Harper reached a "fraudulent" agreement on climate change with his fellow Asia-Pacific leaders, say the leaders of Green parties in Canada and Australia.
APEC leaders agreed Saturday to a so-called "aspirational goal" of slowing, stopping and eventually reversing greenhouse gas emissions.
But the APEC meetings have always been about trade, says Canadian Green Party Leader Elizabeth May.
By trying to set the rules on climate change, the APEC leaders were attempting to circumvent United Nations talks on the environment, May argued Tuesday during a news conference.
"This is a direct effort to sabotage the upcoming meetings in Bali, Indonesia, at the 13th conference of the parties on climate change," she said.
"(That's) where negotiations belong, within the United Nations system."
May and Australia's Green party accused Harper, U.S. President George W. Bush and Australia's prime minister, John Howard, of trying to diminish global efforts to fight climate change.
Australia's Green party, known as the Greens, issued a statement Tuesday calling Canada and Australia spoilers on climate change, suggesting their governments are being swayed by the energy and logging industries in both countries.
"Prime Minister Harper is desperately trying to renege on Canada's commitments under the Kyoto Protocol," said the Greens spokeswoman on climate change, Senator Christine Milne.
"So it's no wonder he feels at home with Prime Minister Howard, who is equally keen to avoid any binding targets or real action to reduce emissions."
Harper has said the Sydney declaration brings together a divided world on the issue of climate change.
Both Harper and Howard stressed that the real significance of the APEC statement was that the world's biggest emitters - China, Russia and the United States - signed on after finding common ground.
However, without specific targets or timelines, the declaration was immediately panned as a political stunt.
The declaration said APEC member countries would try to improve energy efficiency by at least 25 per cent by 2030.
It also called for forest cover to be increased by at least 20 million hectares by 2020 as a way of combating climate change.
If that were achieved, the additional trees could store about 1.4 billion tonnes of carbon, equivalent to around 11 per cent of 2004's global emission, the statement said. Your text goes here[/QUOTE]
It is pretty much a given that APEC climate change talks were a political stunt engineered to generate headlines for our Government who has its back to the wall on this issue coming into an election where apparently 86% of us care about Climate Change. This article below shows the Greenies feel that even discussing this issue undermines the UN role on this issue.
Howard is claiming a victory because he got China and India to tentatively agree to aspire to reduce emissions something they have been opposed to in the past and is the major sticking point with the US not signing Kyoto......I tentatively and non-bindingly aspire to agree with him; this is a tentative, non-binding aspirational victory for the tentative non-binding aspirational Aussies...Go johnny ......aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi........hmmmmmmmm is there Rugby on at the moment
Here is the story, worth a look
Aussie, Canadian Green parties criticize APEC outcome
1 hour ago
OTTAWA (CP) — Prime Minister Stephen Harper reached a "fraudulent" agreement on climate change with his fellow Asia-Pacific leaders, say the leaders of Green parties in Canada and Australia.
APEC leaders agreed Saturday to a so-called "aspirational goal" of slowing, stopping and eventually reversing greenhouse gas emissions.
But the APEC meetings have always been about trade, says Canadian Green Party Leader Elizabeth May.
By trying to set the rules on climate change, the APEC leaders were attempting to circumvent United Nations talks on the environment, May argued Tuesday during a news conference.
"This is a direct effort to sabotage the upcoming meetings in Bali, Indonesia, at the 13th conference of the parties on climate change," she said.
"(That's) where negotiations belong, within the United Nations system."
May and Australia's Green party accused Harper, U.S. President George W. Bush and Australia's prime minister, John Howard, of trying to diminish global efforts to fight climate change.
Australia's Green party, known as the Greens, issued a statement Tuesday calling Canada and Australia spoilers on climate change, suggesting their governments are being swayed by the energy and logging industries in both countries.
"Prime Minister Harper is desperately trying to renege on Canada's commitments under the Kyoto Protocol," said the Greens spokeswoman on climate change, Senator Christine Milne.
"So it's no wonder he feels at home with Prime Minister Howard, who is equally keen to avoid any binding targets or real action to reduce emissions."
Harper has said the Sydney declaration brings together a divided world on the issue of climate change.
Both Harper and Howard stressed that the real significance of the APEC statement was that the world's biggest emitters - China, Russia and the United States - signed on after finding common ground.
However, without specific targets or timelines, the declaration was immediately panned as a political stunt.
The declaration said APEC member countries would try to improve energy efficiency by at least 25 per cent by 2030.
It also called for forest cover to be increased by at least 20 million hectares by 2020 as a way of combating climate change.
If that were achieved, the additional trees could store about 1.4 billion tonnes of carbon, equivalent to around 11 per cent of 2004's global emission, the statement said. Your text goes here[/QUOTE]
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Comment by Stanley
on a more serious note i am raging against the australian media coverage, especially the murdoch press, that has more or less stated that this is a triumph for howard! are you serious? johnny boy comes from the bush school of enviro politics and they are now touting him as an eco-warrior 2k7!
ugh, give me my barf bag.
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Damo.........Weasils very true...small tiny (sic) smelly weasils at that
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...have a try at this common ground : an oil field three times the size of Saudi Arabia's has been found under north Canada and Australia has most of the world's uranium... I'd say pollution measures are ire-relvant, wouldn't you?
Maybe the Kyoto protocol could be renamed to something else?
GREAT POST !
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you almost had me going with that too *chuckle* *laugh* *snort*
Bravo!
Sorry Louie, just had to laugh ...
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