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To Nuke or not to Nuke...that is the Question

August 29th 2007 02:01
By now we are all well versed on Global Warming, Climate Change, Green Energy and the rest. We are all doing our best to reduce Global Warming in our own small way by reducing our own individual Carbon Footprints. If you look at this Climate Change campaign from a "marketing" perspective it has probably been one of the most successful Global marketing campaigns in the history of the World, all for a good cause. Let's hope so. Hopefully we are all not being set up to accept a lower standard than previously under the guise of "Global Warming".

Some serious questions are now going to be asked of us, an article I read this morning claimed 86% of Australians think that Climate Change is an important issue for the upcoming Federal election. CLICK HERE Apparently a LOT of us care about what is going on.


Well people we better know what we think about Nuclear power because the wheels are in motion for it to be put forward as the answer to all our Global Warming Problems. On paper nuclear seems like the perfect solution, if you ignore the risks of course. This article in the Times states that despite Environmentalists objections Britain is going to receive two new nuclear power plants and most Britains think (yes 86% again) tink its ok because its a solution to climate Change....hmmmmmmmmCLiCK HERE Scary to think of the risks if we try to solve this entire problem with Nuclear Power.

The Greenpeace Website is a good place to start if you want to get the lowdown on Nuclear Power, here is a snippet


Nuclear power is still as radioactive, dangerous and expensive as ever. And it is no solution to climate change.
Our best solution to climate change is clean renewable energy sources, such as solar and wind, combined with technologies that vastly improve energy efficiency.

To solve the climate crisis, Greenpeace is calling for a target of 60 per cent renewable energy in Australia by 2050.

Read our submission to the federal government's nuclear inquiry.

CLICK HERE to check out everything Greenpeace has to say on Nuclear Energy



In my opinion it seems the risks and costs far outweigh the benefits of Nuclear power, something tells me we are all being set up to believe it is the answer to all of this but it isn't. Better to be informed instead of being TOLD half truths. I for one will be saying NO to Nuke.
Photo's from Greenpeace Website



Happy Orbling.

Louie
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Comment by Lara M

August 29th 2007 02:23
I don't know too much on this matter, but from what has been presented I'll be saying 'no to nuke' too. It seems like it's a quick-fix solution...

Comment by Louie

August 29th 2007 02:45
exactly LaraM, quick and DIRTY

Comment by Damo

August 29th 2007 04:17
My opinion about nuclear power has changed over the years since Chernoble.
It is big, spectacular and powerful but also a danger.

The government report lead by Ziggy should be looked at through his trck record.
Yes he has qualifications but he has been in business for more than 20 years.
He was labeled one sock Ziggy after one of his publicity stunts
As Ceo of Kodak Australia he closed the operation down and sent it contractors in Asia.
As Ceo of Telstra he shut down existing chains of communication from lower ranks to senior management. He has a I don't want to know about the problems attitude.
He also seems to be more interested in the share movement than in running companies.

As such I would look at his report in a very dubious and questionable light.

Comment by Louie

August 29th 2007 05:08
Yes Damo I have to agree on the credibility factor re Ziggy...my personal opinion is that he has got where he is today because he has a cool name and curly hair....I cant see any other explanation because his track record certainly aint ever been a reason to give him a top job....prob something to do with Nepotism somewhere down the track, i have harboured a secret suspicion that maybe he has Photo's of Howard??????

Comment by Lilla

August 29th 2007 07:01
Louie,

NO NUKES

We really don't need them, but it's the uranium (mining) profits that make it a 'bottom line' spinner... just keep on raping the planet...the saddest part of all, is I don't think we have a say, really... you and Lara are right - Cheap and Dirty!!!

Did you know Japan has 27 Nuclear plants that have been running 'cleanly' for years... I wonder where they are dumping their garbage?

It just breaks my heart to see all that sun and wind go to waste, year after year, after year, just so a few greasy corporate slime-balls, with politicians in their back pockets, can make a few more 'bottom lines' ...oops, sorry, better stop now before the soap box comes out, but I have come to realise that when a politician is chattering about 'sustainable' this and that, he is talking about his income, not the planet.

I noticed with great dissapointment too, that in order to be a part of the 'great game,' the Austrlian Labor party had to drop it's 'No Nukes' philosophy, for the first time in history... we've already been sold out then, either way, it's a done deal? Not that I don't think Mr Garrett will eventually make a sound, as the front man does...but he won't stop this one... not from where I am standing?

And when it's all been mined out, every last thing... then what?



Lilla ...


Comment by katyzzz

August 29th 2007 07:06
Reduce Global warming, stop breathing.

katyzzz

Comment by Louie

August 29th 2007 08:10
Lilla. Love the pic. and your comments ring very true....here's hoping Mr Garret made enough out of being a rock star so that he doesn't sell us out...... fingers crossed......and as for the bottom line on Uranium the Billions that have been made there would make anyone feel ill...unless of course you have made the money


Katiezzzz I hear you, ubt I think for me it could be better if i just stop talking as well as breathing cheers Louie

Comment by Howard

August 29th 2007 09:52
I think the cult of Malthusianism in Australia has gone too far. My friends in the CEC (Citizen's Electoral Council) assure me the population is not totally batty. Yet, they still don't have even one commercial nuclear power station. Isn't that a disgrace??? How are we going to feed and electrify Africa without Nuclear Power? Without it, billions will die.
Next stop, it's back into the trees.

Comment by Louie

August 29th 2007 11:14
Back to the trees or some of these big VC guys can lend some of their Solar Technology to the masses and we will all be saved..........

Comment by Howard

August 29th 2007 12:34
no, really big guy, the energy flux density of solar power simply is not adequate to run an industrial civilization. Unless you want to live in a country like Nigeria, that has the equivalent of 2-3 large power plants for over 100 million people. Try that.

Comment by Nickoftime's Sanity Corner

August 29th 2007 20:06
Louie,

want my opinion?

Screw nuclear power...All we yanks have ever had out of it is trouble, death and poisoning...

And if ya don't believe it, look up Three Mile Island Pennsylvania, and see what happened there...

But I really only have one word to say here...Chernoybal...The entire world is still paying for that little mistake!

Never mind that one infintesimal granule of spent reactor fuel has a half life of 75 million years!

Take care,

Nick


Comment by Howard

August 29th 2007 20:15
You don't understand. It's because it's radioactive, you know where it is! You live everyday in smoke and methane and CO2 and bacteria, SO2, ammonia, dust, manure....stop acting like a two-year old.
With the new HTGR reactors (high temp gas reactor), not only will we have 100% passively-achieved safety, but other benefits. The HTGRs are hot enough to catalytically break down H2O (water) into hydrogen, or process it to hydrogen fuels. That means clean car and transportation fuels. Now then there are MAGLEV trains, no wheels, soon to be on the Eurasian Landbridge and the Bering St. tunnel from USA to Russia. If you war mongers and anti-nukers (really the same thing, dig, Iran as target) cut out your I love Dick Cheney and the Queen crap.

Comment by Louie

August 29th 2007 22:44
Nick I totally agree....

Howard hahaha you're great......
cut out your I love Dick Cheney and the Queen crap.
and
stop acting like a two-year old.

made me laugh, thanks.. I guess i don't understand.

Comment by Cibbuano

August 29th 2007 23:18
I dunno, I'm not so strongly against nuclear power. For me, the issue is that it takes too long to build a nuclear power plant and keep it serviced. I think of it as a safe technology... several countries use nuclear without incidents occurring, including Canada, Japan and France. They're getting better at reclaiming some of the waste. What to do with the rest? Dunno...

I think it's much preferable to the massive coal plants that Australia currently uses.

Obviously, the best solution is to use some kind of solar power, but at the moment, it's not quite a mature technology, and can't deliver the kind of power that the country needs.

Individuals can reduce their power consumption by installing their own, and I think that's a good way to start... but I don't see many households doing that...


Comment by Louie

August 29th 2007 23:45
Yeah installing Solar is prohibitively expensive for most of us, i did a post on pricing it and it was circa $15grand a house. The govt does subsidise it but still most people can't afford that kind of money.

Major Catch22 but the new solar Technologies are proving to be as effecting as Nuke, Solar Thermal it si called, unfortunately the VC's pretty much own it so will want to make their gazillion percent treturns before parting with the Tech.

cheers, thanks for your comments.

Comment by Brenton

August 30th 2007 02:09
I think that Nuklier power is a bit of a cane toad solution - it solves the first problem but presents a second.

Howard - I LOVE how you just said anti-nukers and warmongers were one and the same.

Comment by Louie

August 30th 2007 07:56
Cane Toad solution...that rocks..might have to steal that as a title for a post further down the track...cheers Louie

Comment by Howard

August 30th 2007 11:21
Anti-nukers and war mongers are deployed by the same people, the oligarchy. The troops are usually too DUMB and frenzied to know it. After all, it's the dionysian frenzy of "expressing yourself" that counts, right?
(Obviously, there are exceptions, and local issues, I am speaking about "ad hominem" and "one-issue" attacks).

Comment by Louie

August 30th 2007 23:53
Howard you def should have your own TV show, your talents are wasted on Orble...... Did you know only 2% of the population is actually capable of killing.......

Comment by Howard

August 31st 2007 12:33
yes, but they go along to get along.

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